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Rye ideas?

Postby Sully11 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:43 am

Does anyone have a good rye beer recipe? I'm trying to find something similar to Two Brothers Red Rye Ale.
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Matt F » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:09 pm

BYO July/August 2003 had a clone recipe for Terrapin Rye Pale Ale which used Rye at 10% of the grist and was the first beer I made with Amarillo which was a new hop at the time. Scored 47/50 points in 2004 THIRSTY comp and took second best of show to my Scotch Ale. It was also my first all grain batch of beer. I still like to brew it from time to time. I substituted Columbus for Magnum for the bittering hops because I was out of Magnum. Other than that I brewed the BYO recipe straight up. This beer was also cloned for the Jamil Show on Brewing Network. Here is their recipe which is very similar to BYO. I don't have the BYO recipe handy at the moment. I used Wyeast 1272 American Ale II as recommended by the brewer and used in BYO.

http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/597

Recipe: Terrapin Rye Pale Ale
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.057 SG
Estimated Color: 8.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 53.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs 12.0 ozPale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 70.91 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Munich 10L (Briess) (10.0 SRM) Grain 9.09 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 9.09 %
1 lbs Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 7.27 %
8.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3.64 %
0.75 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 39.2 IBU

0.75 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (30 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 1.9 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (3 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
2 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 2000 Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13.75 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 4.30 gal of water at 170.1 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 2.41 gal of water at 198.5 F 168.0 F
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby czubak » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:51 pm

That Looks good! Never used rye before. May copy some of this and pitch onto my current 090 cake in a couple weeks.

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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Matt F » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:05 pm

The rye in this one is subtle. I felt it added a slight spicey character and dryness but was not overly rye tasting. I made it after having the beer on tap at 5 Seasons Brewing which the Terrapin owner/brewer was also brewing at in 2003. Great pale ale especially when fresh.
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Sully11 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:39 pm

Thanks Matt. If I'm looking to make a small batch of this, say 2 gallons, could I just cut the ingredients by 2/3rds?
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Matt F » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:58 pm

That's what I would do. You doing an all grain batch?
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Sully11 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:08 pm

Yeah, I have a smaller mash tun that I'm going to use. It's been out of commission for a while but I think it'll be ok.
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby UndeadFred » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:08 pm

I have to put that on the list for late summer. I love everything Rye in food, been wanting to try it in Beer, too. Looks pretty good from the ingredient list...

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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Sully11 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:54 am

Would you still pitch the entire amount of yeast (Wyeast smack-pack or WhiteLabs vial) with a 2 gallon batch?
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Matt F » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:01 pm

I would pitch one packet and call it good.
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Sully11 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:19 pm

I brewed this recipe this weekend and pitched Wyeast 1056. OG was at 1.054. However, it's really hazy. Will some cold lagering time help clear this up? I pitched the whole packet for around 2 gallons.
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Matt F » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:27 pm

It will be hazy from the hops for a while. Dry hopping will make hazy too. To clear a beer I cold crash in the fridge for a day before racking. Most of the crap falls to the bottom. If you just brewed this weekend, I would not be worried about haze for a while. My primary is minimum 10 days and typically two weeks. I find 1056 to be hazy in general which is why I often used WLP 007 Dry English at cool temps in the past. Low temp keeps esters at bay and it floccs out really well.
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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby czubak » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:17 pm

What's a good percentage of rye in a recipe? Never used it and don't want to over do it. Using 2row for my base malt.

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Re: Rye ideas?

Postby Matt F » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:47 pm

Depends what you are making but I think Denny Conn's well known Rye IPA may have around 20%. The pale ale above is only 10% and does not come off as a rye beer. Kind of adds a dimension. I recall an article years ago that said 20% or you really don't get much rye. Then there or mostly rye beers too.
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Rye ideas?

Postby czubak » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:36 pm

Brewing this Friday. I've only used rice hulls once a couple years ago. What's a good percentage there? I've read that rye is similar to wheat in terms of stuck sparges. Yes my hop choice is a bit obscure. Image


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